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Title: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Pantho on July 07, 2018, 06:44 pm

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Server is READY TO GO! ... But we are moving the hardware/IP for better performance.
This means a new IP, so we figured it's best to do it before we open for real kinda thing.

Server will be online Saturday 14th of July at some random time - OK!



Let us say Saturday Evening UK time? The servers VHD is transfer and im busy morning time.

So we'll likely get it online tomorrow evening. VIVA LA BYB!
Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: Thorhead on July 07, 2018, 06:45 pm
Vote for option 3 for extra SUCK
Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: Rawss on July 07, 2018, 06:46 pm
YES and bring back supers :D
Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: Jelman on July 07, 2018, 06:46 pm
333333333
Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: BlueNova on July 07, 2018, 06:56 pm
Yes you slag

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Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: AdamS on July 07, 2018, 06:56 pm
Yes but no Pantho and bring Deon back.  Also make me a root so I can make new more archaic rules.
Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: Loqfrican on July 07, 2018, 07:02 pm
Bring it back, however don't wipe the rules completely and rather revise over them.
For example, the base building rules. Bases on the ByB servers have always been different and better than other servers (in my opinion). It made it somewhat fair for both the defender and attacker and made it almost impossible to construct bases with over powering angles (like small tight angles). Job rules were great and enabled great role play. However, some changes which were done to, for example, the BMD, should be revised.

Honestly, the rules back in 2012-2015 were fantastic. Sure they were long, but not as long as they currently stand and they were, as said, fantastic. ByB's rules allowed for a different type of gameplay compared to other servers I feel, but that's just my nostalgia talking.

The second iteration of Rebirth was amazing. It had decent addons and development was good but it died because bugs were piling up and weren't being fixed, as well as no new content was really being added that were requested by the community. Not to mention the whole "paying for admin" thing pissed new players off, especially how some of them were abusive.

If a new Rebirth were to pop up, I personally think a new map should be considered - a good, popular map that is somewhat generic to the DarkRP community now. Instead of picking a random, but good, map that no one really has ever played.

Also, personally I think that the current situation with ranks should be reconsidered and organized. I dislike the whole "contributor" rank. If anything at least change it's name from "contributor" because I, and I bet many others, interpret that they contributed in some way with donating to the server, rather than actually developing for the server and well, being a developer. I do think that payed admin should fall away, and there should be either one or two admin ranks. Players should be considered to be promoted to an admin more than what has been considered in the past years - and not primarily promoted on the fact that the player spent time with staff members on TeamSpeak or Discord.

Keeping it short and clean. Yes, bring it back. No, don't wipe the rules completely but revise over them.
Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: Pantho on July 07, 2018, 07:10 pm
Bring it back, however don't wipe the rules completely and rather revise over them.
For example, the base building rules. Bases on the ByB servers have always been different and better than other servers (in my opinion). It made it somewhat fair for both the defender and attacker and made it almost impossible to construct bases with over powering angles (like small tight angles). Job rules were great and enabled great role play. However, some changes which were done to, for example, the BMD, should be revised.

Honestly, the rules back in 2012-2015 were fantastic. Sure they were long, but not as long as they currently stand and they were, as said, fantastic. ByB's rules allowed for a different type of gameplay compared to other servers I feel, but that's just my nostalgia talking.

The second iteration of Rebirth was amazing. It had decent addons and development was good but it died because bugs were piling up and weren't being fixed, as well as no new content was really being added that were requested by the community. Not to mention the whole "paying for admin" thing pissed new players off, especially how some of them were abusive.

If a new Rebirth were to pop up, I personally think a new map should be considered - a good, popular map that is somewhat generic to the DarkRP community now. Instead of picking a random, but good, map that no one really has ever played.

Also, personally I think that the current situation with ranks should be reconsidered and organized. I dislike the whole "contributor" rank. If anything at least change it's name from "contributor" because I, and I bet many others, interpret that they contributed in some way with donating to the server, rather than actually developing for the server and well, being a developer. I do think that payed admin should fall away, and there should be either one or two admin ranks. Players should be considered to be promoted to an admin more than what has been considered in the past years - and not primarily promoted on the fact that the player spent time with staff members on TeamSpeak or Discord.

Keeping it short and clean. Yes, bring it back. No, don't wipe the rules completely but revise over them.


Everyone wants a new map or new content...

Keep your paragraphs/essays out of this crap please. This is a simple "Hit Go and whatever" thread for the holidays. Ok.

We don't want a new map, we don't want to revise rules, or content ... Screw that, you can do it all later for 9$ a month ok.
Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: Jelman on July 07, 2018, 07:12 pm
if we have more than 30 bullet points in the rules we have smeged up
Title: Re: Should we hit go?
Post by: Thorhead on July 07, 2018, 07:15 pm
Bring it back, however don't wipe the rules completely and rather revise over them.
For example, the base building rules. Bases on the ByB servers have always been different and better than other servers (in my opinion). It made it somewhat fair for both the defender and attacker and made it almost impossible to construct bases with over powering angles (like small tight angles). Job rules were great and enabled great role play. However, some changes which were done to, for example, the BMD, should be revised.

Honestly, the rules back in 2012-2015 were fantastic. Sure they were long, but not as long as they currently stand and they were, as said, fantastic. ByB's rules allowed for a different type of gameplay compared to other servers I feel, but that's just my nostalgia talking.

The second iteration of Rebirth was amazing. It had decent addons and development was good but it died because bugs were piling up and weren't being fixed, as well as no new content was really being added that were requested by the community. Not to mention the whole "paying for admin" thing pissed new players off, especially how some of them were abusive.

If a new Rebirth were to pop up, I personally think a new map should be considered - a good, popular map that is somewhat generic to the DarkRP community now. Instead of picking a random, but good, map that no one really has ever played.

Also, personally I think that the current situation with ranks should be reconsidered and organized. I dislike the whole "contributor" rank. If anything at least change it's name from "contributor" because I, and I bet many others, interpret that they contributed in some way with donating to the server, rather than actually developing for the server and well, being a developer. I do think that payed admin should fall away, and there should be either one or two admin ranks. Players should be considered to be promoted to an admin more than what has been considered in the past years - and not primarily promoted on the fact that the player spent time with staff members on TeamSpeak or Discord.

Keeping it short and clean. Yes, bring it back. No, don't wipe the rules completely but revise over them.
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Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: AdamS on July 07, 2018, 07:39 pm
No cheating
Okay

No racism/OOC insults
If my president can hurl racial insults and Britian get sacked by the lots; Why can't I express my views?

No bigotry/sexual refrences outside of character.
Does this include my OOC Erotica?

No 'extreme' disrespect to admins (We understand temper and annoyance, but you swear at a guy helping and you're banned)
Have good staff.

Root admins are still gods - we might accidentally nuke your cockroaches, but life sucks.
Roots can suck my wee wee.

No base rules, no "MUST HAVE WINDOWS 4.5mm by 2.5mm rubbish"
smeg this and any ideas you have over this. That is smeging bullocks. Some rules can be shaved but totally scraping the rules that made the server fair is dumber than trusting Lindsey Lohan not to snort a line of coke at the coke factory.

Also, we might just have community admins? screw buying it ... I guess brand new super/trusteds?
But if I have money, I want to be able to ban people with it.

- Ponies Suck
Thats just foul
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: claims on July 07, 2018, 07:41 pm
Can we focus more upon more creative solutions and customizes? I cant say last rebirth was so damn inventive, why?
- Arie f4 menu
- Non way to have inventory (Trust me) There is a good reasons why inventory is kinda obligated)
- TDM cars on a freaking downtown map.
- Go for Rp_downtown_tits_v1 thats map are now changing the downtown community. Trust me, I've been very active within darkrp pasts 3 years.

Its sad to say this and very sad... but in reality donating is the future of success, its like loot box. We need to create the community addictive as possible, so color coordination, unboxing, coin flips to loot boxes aka / pointshop 2.

What we need are
- Try to keep off scriptfodder but unless you got a nice bugdet or having some coders on non paid roll, you can achieve that. What you guys got is beckibox which are a very nice feature you cant find, well I created this box and have it public. Regardless, what i'm saying. Becki Box is something unique which I loved you guys for.

Try to box mainstream and uniqe things in addictive ordinations, and have a better structure of staff and you will success. Have you guys thought about migrating to new system, example IPB? I have migrated smf to invisions forum before without any issues. Let's be honest, smf is outdated and non friendly anymore. 

EDIT: Sometimes in life reboots is whats needed.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Jelman on July 07, 2018, 07:44 pm
admin disrespect rules shouldnt exist flat out. we're a gmod community not tumblr
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: SoSoNiCK on July 07, 2018, 08:03 pm
Yes.

I will prefer RP4 last backup to be revived but I guess rebirth is more modern.


Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: AdamS on July 07, 2018, 08:06 pm
admin disrespect rules shouldnt exist flat out. we're a gmod community not tumblr
Admins r fabulous
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Scriptis on July 07, 2018, 08:07 pm
admin disrespect rules shouldnt exist flat out. we're a gmod community not tumblr

I agree, but I think that this is a bit one-sided. I'd like to propose a compromise:
Yes.

I will prefer RP4 last backup to be revived but I guess rebirth is more modern.

If dupes survived, I would like my dupes back. If they didn't, well, :(.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Pantho on July 07, 2018, 08:54 pm
Yes.

I will prefer RP4 last backup to be revived but I guess rebirth is more modern.


I do too, but lazy m8... Hit GO and done on rebirth ;)
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: iProxy on July 07, 2018, 09:02 pm
If dupes survived, I would like my dupes back. If they didn't, well, :(.

I have the dupes backed up on my end.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: AdamS on July 07, 2018, 09:35 pm
Personally, I wouldn't mind re-doing the forum for fun on the side. Though, - IPB is expensive and we did snatch an xenforo license, but I think that is expired now. If anything, I wouldn't mind seeing MyBB as a replacement and it's free :).
SMF is still fine to use imho. Just more febreeze and theme edits should fix it.  MyBB still makes me feel nervous because of how exploit prone it used to be years and years back. And the lack of content for it versus the thousands for smf.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Pantho on July 07, 2018, 10:27 pm
Well, this is kinda a reply to "Speak English" when he said he'd pay to turn the server on for summer...

And I was like "Wait, we have it paid for summer? Just hit GO and that's it".

Any change to the game,rules or forum messes over that simplicity.

This is not a true rebirth, but a screw it and hit launch server as it's FREE and SIMPLE to do so.
We have paid for the server the entire time it's been offline, because why not? - It's paid till Sept 4th.
IF IT ACTUALLY stays populated then  I guess we'd organise something... Nobody gives a fudge about money so maybe some non profit council of elders rubbish? whatever.

I'd hand over ByB legally to someone if it was actually populated and active.
I'm way to busy with Work currently to care for a game server so passing it on would be fine.


AutoMerge: July 07, 2018, 10:35 pm
Well, this is kinda a reply to "Speak English" when he said he'd pay to turn the server on for summer...

And I was like "Wait, we have it paid for summer? Just hit GO and that's it".

Any change to the game,rules or forum messes over that simplicity.

This is not a true rebirth, but a screw it and hit launch server as it's FREE and SIMPLE to do so.
We have paid for the server the entire time it's been offline, because why not? - It's paid till Sept 4th.
IF IT ACTUALLY stays populated then  I guess we'd organise something... Nobody gives a fudge about money so maybe some non profit council of elders rubbish? whatever.

I'd hand over ByB legally to someone if it was actually populated and active.
I'm way to busy with work currently to care for a game server so passing it on would be fine.

Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Caspari on July 08, 2018, 01:29 am
yes dad  :P
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Pantho on July 08, 2018, 04:27 pm
Can we focus more upon more creative solutions and customizes? I cant say last rebirth was so damn inventive, why?
- Arie f4 menu
- Non way to have inventory (Trust me) There is a good reasons why inventory is kinda obligated)
- TDM cars on a freaking downtown map.
- Go for Rp_downtown_tits_v1 thats map are now changing the downtown community. Trust me, I've been very active within darkrp pasts 3 years.

Its sad to say this and very sad... but in reality donating is the future of success, its like loot box. We need to create the community addictive as possible, so color coordination, unboxing, coin flips to loot boxes aka / pointshop 2.

What we need are
- Try to keep off scriptfodder but unless you got a nice bugdet or having some coders on non paid roll, you can achieve that. What you guys got is beckibox which are a very nice feature you cant find, well I created this box and have it public. Regardless, what i'm saying. Becki Box is something unique which I loved you guys for.

Try to box mainstream and uniqe things in addictive ordinations, and have a better structure of staff and you will success. Have you guys thought about migrating to new system, example IPB? I have migrated smf to invisions forum before without any issues. Let's be honest, smf is outdated and non friendly anymore. 

EDIT: Sometimes in life reboots is whats needed.

Sali... Babe...

I really agree with you so much here, you seem to actually understand the stupidity of server running.

Donating is the future to success yes, people are oddly addicted to spending money for things like this.
However i DO NOT WANT TO PROFIT anymore... We could give this money in some shared system to supers? But I really don't want a single penny of it. ByB money helped me a LOT but I don't want nor need it anymore.
If you can think of a nice loot box system with minimal effort I'd consider it. Minimal meaning we/I don't want to recode the entire thing. A pointshop/scratchcard system from scriptfodder we can implement with minimal code would be fine.

Keep off scriptfodder was the original ByB model, which I and Weasel spent so much time doing. It works, but for a loot box theme we'd likely need it a bit.

Staff remake is definitely needed. But a new forum I really cba.

I removed most people Sali, but I've added back your account "claims" we can talk when I'm at work and bored this week. It would be interesting to talk I think. Though beckibox was not the only thing ByB made... most DarkRP features since gmod10 where 'appropriated' from ByB with Falco ;)



Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: speak______english on July 08, 2018, 05:12 pm
Id be very surprised to see a staff remake. I just see alot of people staying is there positions with alittle bro time on discord. But id love to have the server up, wanna build a base with good tools and noclip and be a SWAT. PLEASE do not chance anything we wanna come back to BYB not some new thing y'all wanna try out. The rules have been changed and improved from the start, i think they are pretty damn FIRE and should stay AND anyway can we make Super on duty like a server vote like mayor cause sometimes y'all get to damn crazy.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Loqfrican on July 08, 2018, 06:40 pm
If dupes survived, I would like my dupes back. If they didn't, well, :(.

I have the dupes backed up on my end.


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
I wonder what I had made, can't even remember
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: ChipsNdSalsa on July 08, 2018, 11:46 pm
RP4 PERIOD. GO
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Lexi's Inferior on July 09, 2018, 01:10 pm
Doooo eeeeet
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: MaraudingCrab on July 09, 2018, 08:36 pm
IMO having no base rules seems like a breeding ground for abuse, that being said the current base rules leaves newer players with their smeg in the wind. So tone down the rules to conform to the newer standards but keep some that gave BYB its uniqueness.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: AdamS on July 09, 2018, 10:11 pm
IMO having no base rules seems like a breeding ground for abuse, that being said the current base rules leaves newer players with their smeg in the wind. So tone down the rules to conform to the newer standards but keep some that gave BYB its uniqueness.
I'd say go with the current rules until it's decided what will be done with ByB (As I have said before). But if we ever got to re-do the rules here would be my take at "Shortening" them.

https://pastebin.com/961HLrr6

Still could shorten some parts but I will be damned before someone tosses out them Base Rules. I'd rather see nothing come back.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Loqfrican on July 09, 2018, 11:52 pm
IMO having no base rules seems like a breeding ground for abuse, that being said the current base rules leaves newer players with their smeg in the wind. So tone down the rules to conform to the newer standards but keep some that gave BYB its uniqueness.
I'd say go with the current rules until it's decided what will be done with ByB (As I have said before). But if we ever got to re-do the rules here would be my take at "Shortening" them.

https://pastebin.com/961HLrr6

Still could shorten some parts but I will be damned before someone tosses out them Base Rules. I'd rather see nothing come back.

"Base/Stoe/House Rules
Max 3 EGP per BASE - per BASE, not player, per BASE. Giant gang base? Well, 3 EGP only!  - smeg you"

LMFAO
Brilliant
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: sneakster13 on July 10, 2018, 12:44 am
yes but please dont add inventory pickup. I always enjoyed the higher risk of no inventory pickup  :D
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: dominator7713 on July 10, 2018, 12:50 am
YES, waiting for this one, NO inventory pickup keep the risk of losing your weapons, by pocket or in your base, to this day still the best server the way it was
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: claims on July 11, 2018, 05:05 am
YES, waiting for this one, NO inventory pickup keep the risk of losing your weapons, by pocket or in your base, to this day still the best server the way it was

I can relate to what your saying however I'm disagreed about no inventory pickup. I will assume players will hoard the money instead of spending it, this can be bad for example. Let say ByB add some expensive smeg weapons and player buys it and discover smeg I cant store it. What now? They dies and cries to admin, then eventually get banned.

However, having to much store possibility is bad. Example, majority of servers just extract itemstore in addons and say "well now i'm adding TDM cars".. So my suggestions for a ratio could be something like this.

Default is 2 slots and 2 blocks in height and 1 page. 
Code: [Select]
itemstore.InventorySizes = {
default = { 2, 2, 1 }, --- 4 slots
root = { 10, 2, 1 }, --- 20 slots
superadmin = { 10, 2, 1 }, --- 20 slots
trusted_admin = { 10, 2, 1 },--- 20 slots
admin = { 8, 2, 1 }, --- 16 slots
moderator = { 8, 2, 1 }, --- 16 slots
supporter = { 8, 2, 1 }, --- 16 slots
vip_elite = { 6, 2, 1 }, --- 12 slots
vip = { 4, 2, 1 }, --- 8 slots
}

Shipments can be redone into containing 5 weapons instead of 10. So players wont waste inventory to store M4A1 or a shipment of glocks, instead they will use the slots more carefully. Or simply make inventory a donating or time rewarding thing?

Overall, its about gaining players and majority likes inventory.. And PLEAS pantho don't buy itemstore :( I know you guys can create a inventory, so dont disappoint me. I miss a unique server.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Pantho on July 12, 2018, 04:32 pm
We'll be keeping paid admins, as im WAY to frigging lazy to do actual ranks.
All previous, current, existing, french, croatian and living admins will get a couple weeks free.
If the servers still populated after 2 weeks, it kinda means "YAY! Summer ByB fun!", at which point we'll decide. If it's not, then nobody has wasted money.
Sound good?

Rules:
I REALLY wanted to nuke them, and was going to ignore the poll... But we will be keeping them, however I might get bored at work and butcher some of the more 'ludicrous" ones.

Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: AdamS on July 12, 2018, 05:02 pm
I REALLY wanted to nuke them, and was going to ignore the poll... But we will be keeping them, however I might get bored at work and butcher some of the more 'ludicrous" ones.
Or we could just have an open discussion on chucking the bad rules and let the community voice their opinions on each and every one.  I mean, it would not hurt to actually give the community a voice in something for once. Not like they had more play time than most of the upper-staff that decided the rules for years....
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Conor on July 12, 2018, 07:06 pm
I REALLY wanted to nuke them, and was going to ignore the poll... But we will be keeping them, however I might get bored at work and butcher some of the more 'ludicrous" ones.
Or we could just have an open discussion on chucking the bad rules and let the community voice their opinions on each and every one.  I mean, it would not hurt to actually give the community a voice in something for once. Not like they had more play time than most of the upper-staff that decided the rules for years....

Lowkey smeg-stirring going on here
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Smiley on July 12, 2018, 09:53 pm
Stirring the soup bowl, aaah, fresh jelman soup. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Xenvious on July 18, 2018, 12:53 pm
admin disrespect rules shouldnt exist flat out. we're a gmod community not tumblr

if i wanna call bluenova a fat slob, i damn well should be allowed.
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: xFG|Moar Bacon! on July 22, 2018, 03:25 am
So happy to see byb make a return, Will be around under the new name RuthlessNarwhale
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: olicool11 on July 30, 2018, 02:23 pm
Legit never saw the original post for this, holy smeg that font is evil on the eyes
Title: Re: Should we hit go? (Vote number 3... no pressure)
Post by: Xenvious on December 13, 2018, 10:04 pm
Can we hit go again? Thanks